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good morning, saturday november 24th. we're always so grateful to have your company. i am christi paul. >> and i am martin savidge. top stories this hour. a report on climate warns thousands of lives and bills of dollars are at stake. in alabama, a manhunt under way for the gunman that opened fire at a mall thanksgiving night. the man killed at the scene was misidentified as the shooter. meanwhile, president trump preparing for his new reality with house controlled by democrats. and protests over the rising price of fuel. look what that's left on the streets of paris, police firing tear gas, deploying water
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cannons to keep the peace. you're in the cnn "newsroom." again, so grateful to have you here. this morning there's a dark assessment of the devastating effect of leaving climate change unchecked. panel of scientists warning thousands of americans could die premature deaths, the economy could lose hundreds of billions of dollars if global warming is not addressed. scientists behind the study didn't just look at climate shifts over one day or one year, they looked at long term trends here. >> joining us now, cnn's allison chinchar and a climate scientist from georgia tech. good morning to you both. >> good morning. >> allison, you were on this call. there was some interesting insight that came out the way questions were either asked or answered or not. >> the main focus of the phone call was to talk about the report and the main take away
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was to show the direct impacts of climate change on americans' lives. usually the reports are from a global standpoint, but this was a focus on the united states. talked about three industries most impacted, real estate, health care, agriculture. the most interesting thing was at the end they did a question and answer segment, had numerous people ask about the time line of this being issued friday. one person directly asked, this is the official white house climate report, says climate change is real. but you have the president of the united states saying it is not. what are we supposed to believe, the white house report or white house spokesperson? and they refused to answer it. the moderator wouldn't allow the panelists to answer that. i found it odd. these are the scientists, they wrote the report and aren't allowed to answer that simple question. >> did you get a sense they wanted to answer? did anybody start to answer? >> you could hear where people would start to but the moderator, i know that's their
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job to decide who answers the question, but i get the sense if they were allowed, maybe not all of them but some of them would have liked to have answered. >> what about the timing. >> moderator shut that down as well. their response was we want the focus of this to be about the content of this, not about the timing of release. >> with that said, so the viewers know, kim cobb with us now, you go to christmas island every two weeks. this is your area of study. christmas island in the pacific, of course. is what you heard from this report, does it correlate with what you found in 18 years of research? >> yes, absolutely. so as a climate scientist, some of us are in the business of digging back into the past to look at climate extremes before the rise of carbon dioxide. what's locked in records is coming to the present, things are getting warmer, natural climate extremes are getting
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more extreme. consistent with the findings of the report. >> i was going to ask, we had a number of reports done over the years. what makes this one so important and why should we carefully look at it? >> yes. i think these reports come out every several years, and this one i think caught my eye because it has ratcheted up some impacts that we had bigger unsernlu uncertainties but now are clearer than ever, and that's in the worst direction. sea level estimates ticked up. our attribution of climate extremes has improved since the last report. so now we're facing with a lot more certainty some of the very, very damaging types of climate exchange and impacts. and unfortunately this report is just another exclamation mark on a year of dizzying records with wildfires, temperature extremes, heat waves, and of course hurricane season in the southeast. >> are we in the thick of this
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now based on, you know, what you ticked down, the list of what we're dealing with, or can you give us some sort of a time line when we're going to see this ratcheted up or again, are we in it? >> some aspects are taking place, coastal flooding in florida, east coast. call it sunny day flooding in florida where it is not raining but getting those from the tides. it is a great example of the sea level rise. other things, it is going to take several more decades before you notice large scale issues with, but the fact of this report was not just -- that's what separates this, this wasn't just here is doom and gloom, this report gave solutions to the problem. here's to fix ones that are happening now, here's how to fix ones we know will happen down the road. >> what solution stood out? >> they talk about certain things in areas of the west. they have this drought program that's already existed and it is meant for farmers and ranchers,
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how to start to prepare for drought, for heat waves, and how it would effect their livestock. the acadiana group, was created to assess flooding risks for areas in the southeast. you have these programs that are already established to help look into the future of what can we do to mitigate some issues we know will take place. >> is it too late? can we still prevent it? >> absolutely not. we have so much work to do. as allison was saying, some work is reading into those reports, the report has region by region what are expected impacts, thinking about how scientists can work with people in their communities and policy makers to protect those communities today from impacts coming down the pike today actually, so the other bucket of the recommendations they make is to get on top of our emissions and start to make sure we are not baking in more risk than we need
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to. it is absolutely not too late and we have time to get to work. but the report stresses the time to do so is now. it is important for americans' health, well-being, and economic prosperity that we take this seriously. >> we appreciate you both being here. thank you. breaking news in paris. demonstrators taking to the streets over rising fuel costs, gathering in the french capital to express rage with macron after tax hikes. he is pushing incentives to purchase electric vehicles. >> police are using tear gas. you can see there water cannons to combat some of the we are told 8,000 protesters that assembled there. government officials blame far right extremists for inflaming tensions there. cnn senior correspondent jim bittermann is live in paris. jim, you're standing right above this crowd along the chance are.
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what are you seeing and hearing? >> reporter: we're six hours into the protest. i'll show you a little of what's going on at our doorstep downstairs. these are yellow vested protesters, people protesting the rise in gas prices, joined by a lot of other people protesting all sorts of things, high taxes in france, high cost of living. some pensioners in the crowd worried about pensions and retirement, and have been going up and down the avenue, police are using the water cannon, you may see it in the background in action. and setting barricades out and setting fire to barricades which is what we have seen practically all afternoon long here. it does not seem to be that the crowd is dispersing, but on the other hand the overall crowd is substantially smaller than the
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crowds that gathered in france a week ago. this started with a crowd of 230,000 people across the country. today the interior minister says about 23,000, it is less number of protesters out, but these have been far more dramatic than last week and in fact as dramatic as i've seen. authorities said they would try to keep people away from here because of high value stores and fashion boutiques and what not, and clearly that did not happen. christi, martin? >> jim, the explosions and sounds that we're hearing in the background, what are they? >> reporter: well, they're basically some of them flash bombs that the police are using, and also the demonstrators brought with them fireworks, and we have seen a number of demonstrators set off fireworks, that's what the explosions are. there's nothing that as far as i
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can tell that caused much damage, although we did see one demonstrator injured a short while ago who was next to one of these when they went off. and we have seen as you can probably hear in the background a regrouping of the protesters as the police try to move in and push them off the avenue. >> jim, we're listening to that and looking at pictures, and i am wondering president macron has to be watching this as well. you mentioned earlier how low his approval rating is now. is there any indication how the government is going to address this? >> reporter: president macron said he would address the situation tuesday. we're not sure what he is going to do. i would suspect there might be a decrease in gas tax announced or something like that, but he doesn't have a whole lot of room to maneuver here, given the economy in france and that sort
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of thing, and he's also been very resolute about saying he is going to carry out government reforms. some protesters today, for example, are against the reforms he announced from the first days in office, the reforms to the labor laws in this country. that's what they have to do to get the economy moving, met objective by businessmen in the country. after the reforms were announced, this is what we are having on the streets due to high taxes and what not. christi? >> take care of yourself and the team there. thank you. we appreciate it. all right. while much of the focus is on climate change now in washington, there is a deadline looming there. a little more than a month, democrats will take control of the house of representatives. >> let's bring in cnn senior white house correspondent jeff
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zeleny. president trump's financial ties to saudi arabia is near the top of the democrats' agenda but it is not the only thing. >> reporter: good morning. it is not the only thing, martin. this really is the last month the president will be enjoying a full republican control of the house and senate. and he's already getting early sign of what some democrats coming into house of representatives to assume control of their investigations and oversight, of what they're looking at. adam schiff, incoming chairman of the house intelligence committee said yesterday he wants to look at any links between the trump administration, trump organization and saudi arabia, financial links. one thing on the list for democrats is the finances of the trump organization, his tax returns, something he never wanted to give up. so something is going to change in washington. we'll see how successful democrats are in getting these from the president. without question, it will be a new era, a new moment for the president when the new year
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begins. but before that, the president on the golf course in south florida is thinking about changes of his cabinet. he says he may have some before too long. as of now, sunny day in florida. a vacation weekend for the president. >> jeff zeleny, hope you enjoy the sunshine yourself. thank you. breaking news this hour. the gunman in an alabama mall shooting thanksgiving night still on the loose. >> here's the thing. authorities now say the 21-year-old man killed by an officer at the mall, quote, likely did not fire the rounds that injured two people. cnn reporter natasha chen with us now. essentially they're saying there was misidentification of the culprit. >> yes. they released a statement on facebook, saying the department does not typically issue media
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updates during internal investigation, but there was information discussed last night that updates merit and clarification. the initial report was two men got into a fight at the mall that resulted in a 21-year-old shooting an unarmed 18-year-old and the victim was taken to the hospital. the update says the 21-year-old identified as bradford may have been involved in some aspect of the altercation, but likely didn't fire rounds that injured the 18-year-old victim. police say bradford fled the scene. an armed hoover police officer working mall security shot and killed him. if he is not the one that shot the 18-year-old, there's someone out there that did. police believe there were more than two people involved in the initial fight. they say at least one gunman is at large who could be responsible for the 18-year-old victim and a 12-year-old girl caught in the crossfire. she was also taken to the hospital. i reached out to the agency that has taken over the investigation to find out how many suspects
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they're looking for, and whether they believe bradford fired any rounds at all. last we heard the officer involved in the shooting is on administrative leave while they investigate. >> thank you for the update. and still to come, an american was killed during a mission trip to a remote island near india. we talked to a leader of the organization he was affiliated with and got reaction to the news. over the last 24 hours, you finished preparing him for college. in 24 hours, you'll send him off thinking you've done everything for his well being. but meningitis b progresses quickly and can be fatal, sometimes within 24 hours. while meningitis b is uncommon, about 1 in 10 infected will die. like millions of others, your teen may not be vaccinated against meningitis b. meningitis b strikes quickly. be quick to talk to your teen's doctor about a meningitis b vaccine.
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letter an american missionary wrote just before he was killed on an island near india. john chau gave the letter to fishermen before he left their boat for the island. >> it shows he knew the tribes people living in isolation there were dangerous. he wrote you may think i am crazy in all this but i think it is worth it to declare jesus to these people. please do not be angry at them or god if i get killed.
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polo sandoval has more details. >> reporter: this is one of the oldest, most isolated tribes in the world. and authorities say they're responsible for last week's killing of american missionary john allen chau. this archived footage from survival international provides some of the few existing images of the tribe known as the sentinelese. they live in isolation on the tiny island. according to officials, chau illegally paid them to take him to the island to convert the tribe to christianity. they believe he first canoed to shore, deliberately disregarding an established perimeter around the island, according to entries left from the fisherman, shared with the post, he wrote i hollered my name is john. i love you. and jesus loves you. he was then shot at by a member of the tribe with an arrow, piercing his bible. the next day, chau made a second
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attempt but never returned. the fisherman he hired saw him laying on the beach. his last entry reads you guys might think i'm crazy in all this, but i think it is worthwhile to declare jesus to these people. god, i don't want to die. in 2006, they killed another man. they believe their decision to be isolated should be respected. >> somebody comes, they have no idea what he is coming for and why. i think it is far more self defense than murder. >> on social media, chau's family wrote their son loved god, life, helping those in need and had nothing but love for the people. forgiving those responsible for his death. all they can wait to do is find out when or if their son's body
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will be recovered. polo sandoval, cnn, new york. >> earlier we spoke to the international executive leader of the missionary organization john chau worked for and got her perspective on the trip. >> he has been preparing his whole life for this. we knew he was very well prepared. there were several people who would have been happy to go with him, but this is typical of john. i think he did not want to endanger other people's lives, so finally he went alone. and that was his decision. but there were others who were willing to go with him. breaking news out of paris. protesters clashing with police on the champs-elysees. tear gas, water cannons being used to try to suppress the demonstrators that are angry about rising fuel prices. we have the latest from paris next. and a devastating government assessment warns unchecked
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climate change will cost thousands of lives and hundreds of billions of dollars in the u.s. what will the president do about it?
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a combination of flash bangs used by authorities and fireworks being used by protesters. all of this was sparked as a result of the government implementation of new taxes on fuel, gasoline and diesel, and this is the result of people in opposition. but also it appears there's a lot more to it than just fuel taxes. again, we'll continue to monitor the situation as you look at what's happening on the streets of paris this morning. right now, president trump is golfing at his mar-a-lago estate, spending the weekend talking to potential candidates for vacant positions in his administration. meanwhile, a new government report says if you don't do something about climate change, thousands of lives and hundreds of billions of dollars will be lost. remember, the president has consistently called climate change a hoax. >> the united states will
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withdraw from the paris climate accord. i was elected to represent the citizens of pittsburgh, not paris. i don't think it is a hoax, i think there's probably a difference but i don't know that it is man-made. i will say this. i don't want to give trillions and trillions of dollars, i don't want to lose millions and millions of jobs, i don't want to be put at a disadvantage. i have a strong opinion. i want great climate. >> president trump hasn't responded to the assessment yet of the newest report, but some members of congress have. one tweeted we are staring a threat in the face. now is not the time for denials, excuses or equivocation, now is the time for action. democratic strategist with us and political commentator. thank you for being here. scott, i want to ask you, how do
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people reconcile this report by all of these scientists who are in the trump administration with the president who continually denies the existence of it? >> well, i think the president is grappling with a serious issue here and that is how to deal with what is clearly a real thing. i mean, i don't think climate change is a hoax. climate is changing. on the other hand you think about what can we do to counter act it but not devastate people in democratic regions more sensitive than others, say in appelacia where the coal industry is still important. that's what the president has to grapple with. that's what policy makers have to grapple with. some acknowledgment climate change is real, then have a debate how to deal with it without too many short term places that displace people out of an economy they depend on. >> how hopeful are you that
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potency of the report may bring some sort of legislation? >> well, i'm not optimistic. i appreciate what scott said because he is acknowledging climate change as a real and urgent threat. i think the report puts it in terms of the pocketbook, talks about jobs we'll lose, about health care that will be lost and complications that will happen. i live in florida. scott is in appalachia. it is effecting florida. if you go to miami beach in king tide, it is costing jobs and tourism. i think if we can get him to care, maybe about electoral math in 2020, how important florida is, because if we don't have a candidate that understands how urgent this is in florida and throughout the country, they're not going to win florida because this is that important. >> scott, talk about that. there are some republicans getting on board with this.
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what is the political ramification of that? >> well, i think if we continue to see weather events portrayed as being caused by or made more extreme by climate change, that will be more on the minds of voters in 2020. of course any of these issues and impact on an election depends if the candidates themselves make it a top priority. my suspicion is this will be a top priority in the democratic primary for president. the real issue of course would be if either candidate makes it a top priority in the general election. i think it is important we look at what the united states has done in the last several years. sometimes these stories are portrayed as though nothing has been done. i did note a report from agriculture department said since 2004, north america's share of fossil fuel emissions has fallen 24% to 17%, going up to 2013. i think there has been some progress made. >> can progress continue to be made? >> i mean, without the president's support, no legislation would be signed into
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law if that's what you're looking for, but that doesn't mean the free market can't continue to innovate. another core issue, will consumers demand more environmentally friendly technologies, electric cars, for instance. there's two end to this. there's a government response and also will the market respond to consumers if they make it a priority in their own spending. >> quickly, switching gears here, adam schiff said he wants to investigate the president and saudi arabia and any business ties that are in existence there. kevin, is this the way for democrats to finally get what they have been looking for, the president's tax records? >> well, i think it is important to get to the truth of any of this. it is concerning that he is coming out, defending the saudis in relation to what potentially may have happened there and what our intelligence community, the way we understand it, is leaning towards. i think it is important to get
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to the truth, but i don't think democrats will lose focus on this pocketbook issue that got them the majority which is super important. we know people don't like president trump, we know we elected the national enquirer, some that's womanizing, uses racist language and denies truths like climate change and crisis in health care, we know all of that. we have to give people a reason to vote for something. so going down the path of why you shouldn't like president trump, it is probably not a great strategy in the short or long term. >> i have ten seconds. want to give you a chance to react to that. >> yeah, look, i expect democrats to investigate anything and everything. i think overreach is definitely possible here with the new democratic majority. they ought to be careful. it could back fire before the next election. >> sorry we ran out of time. but thank you for being here. >> thank you. >> thank you. the nra and doctors across the country are going head to head over gun violence, images being used make the point
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telling doctors to, quote, stay in their lane when it comes to gun violence prevention. brian todd has details. >> reporter: in the aftermath of two deadly mass shootings, a heated political showdown between two unlikely rivals, the national rifle association and doctors that treat victims of gun violence. the fight stems from a recent article published by american college of physicians, calling firearm violence a public health crisis that requires the nation's immediate attention. doctors shared new recommendations on how physicians can help reduce gun violence, such as counseling patients on risks of having firearms in the home. but doctors also weighed in on issues of background checks, and illegal gun sales. that prompted this tweet from the nra. quote, someone should tell self important anti-gun doctors to stay in their lane. the medical community seems to have consulted no one but themselves. that broadside came hours before the mass shooting in thousand oaks, california where 12 people
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were gunned down. some doctors are outraged. >> for a group to simply dismiss the medical community that is on the front line of taking care of these patients is absolutely unacceptable. >> reporter: joseph sakran not only treats many victims, he was one. >> the bullet ruptured my wind pipe. then these scars are where i had emergency surgery. >> reporter: in 1994 when he was just 17, he was at a high school football game when a fight broke out and someone started shooting. he ended up with a paralyzed voc vocal cord. he said i cannot believe the audacity of the nra. >> where is the nra when i have to tell those loved ones their family member died and isn't coming back. >> reporter: the tweet was
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followed by an avalanche from doctors. one accompanied by an x-ray says i helped save a gun violence victim in medicine school. those are my hands holding pressure on the femoral artery, the bullet by my fingertips. this is me in my lane. recent accounts on guns used in shootings have intensified the political debate. 60 minutes profiled bullets fired from an a r-15 semi automatic rifle. one used in the synagogue shooting, compared to one fired on a gelatin target, the ar-15 bullet is more devastating. one of many complaints from doctors, it is harder and harder to save lives of people hit with high power ammunition. nra refused an on camera interview with us, but they're pushing back hard, telling cnn those doctors attacking the group are pushing a gun control agenda that wouldn't prevent the shootings.
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>> when the nra says you weighing in on policy issues like background checks isn't in your lane, don't they have a point? >> we have both the possibility and the responsibility to weigh in on this issue that we're having to deal with on a daily basis. >> reporter: the nra push back includes several tweets from doctors that support the nra's position. one physician saying that the anti-gun doctors that write some of the articles are not practicing medicine in the trenches. one retired physician saying he is appalled by the leftist direction that organized medicine has taken. brian todd, cnn, washington. >> dr. amy goldberg is a trauma surgeon at temple university hospital. thank you for being with us. just for viewers so they understand, i wanted to show the interesting response you had on twitter to what we heard from the nra when they were telling people to stay in their lane, doctors to stay in their lane. you said when doctors make recommendations about salt
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intake, no one accuses us of being anti-sodium, no one tells us to stay in our lane, seeking to reduce bullet intake doesn't make us anti-gun, it makes us pro-health. if you could sit with somebody from the nra today, what would you want them to understand about what your intentions are here? >> i think it is important for everybody to recognize that what the doctors want is to increase the health of our society. gun violence is a public health crisis, just like physicians may deal with high blood pressure and elevated cholesterol, lung cancer, heart disease, physicians are taking this on because this is what our patients and our families are seeing and we feel it is an obligation to care for all of these patients and to do what we can to address the issue. >> help us understand what it is like for you to see gunshot
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victims again and again and again on a daily basis. >> these wounds are devastating, they're much more devastating than ones we saw 10 and 20 years ago. i have been a trauma surgeon in north philadelphia for about 25 years and the types of guns that we're seeing, high velocity guns with these bullets are just destroying the organs as the bullets pass through them and i think that trauma surgeons, emergency medicine physicians and all doctors are doing whatever they can to try to stop sanitizing these injuries. >> suggesting new ways for doctors to reduce gun violence, regularly asking patients if they own a gun, counseling on gun safety. do you do that, are people receptive to that? >> absolutely. we surely do that at our
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hospital, our trauma outreach coordinator scott charles has gun locks and will ask our patients and patients' families no questions asked, if you have a gun at home, it is so important you keep it safe, and the hospital has supported us passing out gun locks for free to our patients and their families. >> you said in an interview prior that sandy hook could have been a teachable moment. why do you think it wasn't for some people in this country? >> i made that comment about sandy hook just because of the terribleness of young elementary school kids being shot and the fact that none of them made it to the hospital, which told me as a trauma surgeon how devastating the wounds were, and as i said, i sometimes believe that what america season their tvs is really a sanitized
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version. the pictures that we see are the facebook pictures of the victims, and instead i think there was a teachable moment not being disrespectful at all but we had a teachable moment to show what those guns and what the gun did to all those kids. we should have had a moment to show those autopsy photos if the parents had given their permission. this would have made a huge change in the debate we have now. >> i'm sure we all appreciate the work you do. thank you for being here. >> thank you. thanks for having me. on a very different subject when we come back, the match on black friday. plenty of green in las vegas. more on the $9 million faceoff between tiger woods and phil mickelson next.
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>> the power plants can fit inside a 20 foot shipping container and run bio mass from manure to lumber to yard trimmings, even peanut shells. >> we crush it, dry it, pelletize it. >> they take plastic that would end up in land fills, combine it with other green waste, they claim they can produce enough electricity to power homes and factories. >> and then put it into our reactor, and stays there a few seconds before it totally converts into a natural gas replacement. >> the newest unit a mini power plant about the size of a frig. >> we were thinking of this power unit you can bring to middle of nowhere. use the waste and pelletize it, you have a complete power supply on sight. >> are they as easy to use as they seem? >> look at bags of pellets we produce, you do two to three a
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day. >> that's a lot of pellets. it is still in a testing phase. the company hopes mini power plants like these could change how cities and towns source electricity, making themself sustaining, in some cases cleaner. so it was a showdown for the ages. two of golf's greatest champions, tiger woods, phil mickelson, squaring off in what was called simply "the match." >> it was something to behold. it was neck in neck, took four extra holes, 22 in all to get to a winner. darkness was setting in. in the end, mickelson edged out his rival, earning $9 million prize money and a fortune in bragging rights. not bad. amanda boxtel was an skier
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